Re: January 2020 Handgrenade

The US began its participation in the Korean War with a goal of saving South Korea from being conquered by Communist forces. In September 1950 the US adopted a much more ambitious goal, conquering North Korea and uniting the Korean peninsula under anti-Communist rule. The US achieved the first goal but not the second. It would be perfectly reasonable to define "victory" in terms of the first goal, and say the US won the war. It would be equally reasonable to define "victory" in terms of the second, and say that the US did not win the war.

Re: January 2020 Handgrenade

Dear John,

A brief reply like this is hardly adequate to discuss the weighty question of what constitutes victory or defeat. But I'd like to comment only on your statement "sometimes the cup of defeat is not so empty and bitter after all (the defeat of Egypt in 1973 for example)."

Re: Hand Grenade for September 2016

For me, the most surprising aspect of this survey are the answers for OIF and OEF. When I was a CGSC and SAMS student from 2011-2013, the percentages would have been at least reversed. Most of my classmates (more so in CGSC than in SAMS) were convinced that OIF and OEF were victories. OIF in particular, since we were pulling out and all things looked good. A few of my fellow classmates and I tried valiantly to convince people otherwise.

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